(17:46:34) mirek2: 4) This "AppMenu" would reduce dependency on the menu bar and pave way toward making the menubar unnecessary (we would still maintain it, it just wouldn't be required to operate LibreOffice) (17:45:17) mirek2: 3) LibreOffice looks really bad with two toolbar rows - having just a single one would make it look so much cleaner and more balanced (17:44:42) mirek2: 2) most of the buttons on the standard toolbar need to be used maybe once or twice when working with a document they don't tend to be very relevant when actually editing a document, so they basically just add noise most of the time (17:43:05) mirek2: 1) if we want to change the default icon size to large, it'd be good to compensate for it by having just a single row of toolbars instead of two (17:42:28) mirek2: well, I had several reasons for starting the thread (17:40:57) alexanderW: maybe just kick the unimportant stuff out then? (17:39:41) alexanderW: reading it right now (17:39:16) mirek2: haven't had time to write a response (17:38:57) mirek2: have you read Regina's response? (17:38:29) mirek2: have you seen the e-mail about cleaning up the toolbars I sent recently? (17:34:24) mirek2: please send the icons to Kohei (17:34:17) mirek2: I guess I'm just not the right person to talk to in this case (17:31:14) mirek2: is the recurring element on the same level as the non-recurring element? (17:30:29) alexanderW: The XML structure is basically (17:29:28) alexanderW: m not sure what that symbol could be (17:29:14) mirek2: (I suppose I'm not being very helpful) (17:28:35) mirek2: and find a symbol to differentiate between non-recurring vs. (17:27:53) mirek2: perhaps you could differentiate the XML attributes icon from the one for XML elements somehow? (17:26:55) alexanderW: I saw them, but IMHO they don't really convey a meaning (17:26:43) mirek2: not that we want to use the same metaphors, just that it's best to differentiate them (17:25:43) mirek2: for comparison, these are Office's icons: ] (17:23:32) alexanderW: the syntax seems to be the same forr all theree icon, so this was waht I came up with (17:23:32) mirek2: what might help, and I don't know if this is a good idea in this context, is to at least use different highlight colors in each icon (17:23:02) mirek2: which makes it hard to tell them apart at first glance (17:22:47) mirek2: only the position of the colored items is different (17:22:39) mirek2: it's just that all the icons use the same shapes and colors (17:22:29) mirek2: alexanderW: the contrast's not the problem (17:22:12) mirek2: there's a UX advise mailing list thread called XML Import - could you send it there? (17:22:06) alexanderW: Maybe I could increse the contrast a bit (17:21:45) mirek2: however, you better send the icons to Kohei - he'll judge better :) (17:20:55) mirek2: I'm not a user of this feature, so I'm not the best judge, but they seem kind of hard to distinguish between (17:19:53) mirek2: we'll close the whiteboard by the time the remote comes, whether there's a proposal or not (17:19:21) alexanderW: I hope that doesn't result in too many whiteboards again (17:18:09) mirek2: should I start a whiteboard on this?
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(17:17:53) mirek2: it's all in the Android Remote icon thread (17:17:40) alexanderW: I kinda like it, but the phone shouldn't be that detailed (17:17:32) mirek2: and Kévin proposed something as well (17:16:59) mirek2: correction: a proposal (17:16:27) mirek2: Michel published some proposals
(17:15:52) mirek2: to find a suitable metaphor (17:15:24) mirek2: we could do a public whiteboard for it, if you'd like (17:15:03) mirek2: and the blue wave metaphor, imho, wasn't very strong (17:14:44) mirek2: as the perspective didn't match the one of standard Android icons (17:14:14) mirek2: If I remember it correctly, I would say it needs basic changes (17:13:32) alexanderW: The one with the blue 'waves' (17:12:57) mirek2: when you say, does it need more polish, which original are you talking about? Does it only need more polish or also basic changes? (17:10:20) mirek2: btw, when you were offline, have you made any progress on the Impress Remote icon? (17:07:39) mirek2: to be honest, I haven't taken much of a look at them (17:07:06) alexanderW: Are you ok with those XML icons? #libreoffice-design (17:01:35) mirek2: hello
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